i agree 100% my girlfriend baught a laptop from argos a couple of days ago and i spent an hour removing all the crap it came with
they should come with windows only, and defo none of the stuff that expries...what a waste of time that is lol if i wanted office i would buy it or download it from piratebay, 60 days is pointless.
also why the hell dont you recieve a windows CD since uv purchased a copy of it with your laptop, hence your key. if anything go's wrong the cheeky ******* just want you to spend more money paying a shop to install it or buying it again even though you have a copy installed and payd for...not that this causes a major prob for me because theres plenty of plaes to find a copy online, it annoys me for the people who have no clue :)
Bloatware pre-installed on any computer is extremely frustrating for anyone trying to configure a machine for use. It's even more problematic if the person doing the setup is a computer novice or neophyte. If the computer manufacturers really wanted to service their customers they would forgo this crap and instead install worthwhile "free" programs such as OpenOffice, Avast/AVG, Picasa, etc.
I spend hours "de-crapifying" computers prior to assigning them to my company's staff. We are too small to have a dedicated IT staff and I am the "unofficial" IT guy. It is truly amazing how many computer users are ignorant regarding the basic "care and feeding" of their computer. I think the manufacturers are totally out of touch with this reality. I'd estimate that 75% to 80% of the people in our company don't even know basic Windows conventions and keystrokes like "Ctrl+C", etc. These are people who rely on their computers to perform their required work. So, why not make things easier by eliminating the crap entirely. Supply a CD with a selection of decent "free" programs that can be selectively installed. Include a "quickstart/dummies" guide to the software so users can understand what the various programs are designed to do. Finally, Asus does a decent job in minimizing the crap but could do even better. When in doubt, download PC Decrapifier and run it on a new machine before adding additional software.
To my mind, the most inportant thing is to let the the consumer decide what he needs and what he doesn't. I hate when the manufacturers sell their laptops preinstalled with windows & other loads of crap which makes the price higher. Why should I pay for a product which I do not need? THe best way is to let the cosumer choose if he/she needs an OS, and the other preinstalled sutff. If the consumer does not need this let him/her buy that laptop without that crap for a lesser price.
A laptop should ship with no added software preinstalled, other than drivers required to make everything work. If the manufacturer so wishes, they can provide a DVD or folder on the hard drive where the user can choose to install additional software.
I would prefer laptop companies to offer WinXP SP3 as an option and a user friendly Linux distribution as another option.
For Windows, the essential freeware programs that should be preloaded imo are:
1) 7zip
2) VLC player or KMPlayer (cos both can play most media formats by default, excluding real player videos)
3) OpenOffice
4) Acrobat Reader
5) Firefox
6) Thunderbird email client
7) Paint.Net
Browser plugins
1) JRE (Java)
2) Flash
For antivirus & firewall, I would rather install those of my own choice rather than having the manufacturer pre-load them for me.
According to my knowledge it is better to have both Win XP & win vista.Some user prefer to use win xp beacause they daily interact with the same OS.For advanced user they prefer both becuase they some times they need to work on high end softwares which only supports in vista.So it is better that both OS should be installed.Forgive if i am wrong.
I only want the OS installed. I will install the programs I want, that is one reason why I had my last computer custom built. It came with the OS installed and nothing else and that is exactly the way I want it.
i agree 100% my girlfriend baught a laptop from argos a couple of days ago and i spent an hour removing all the crap it came with
they should come with windows only, and defo none of the stuff that expries...what a waste of time that is lol if i wanted office i would buy it or download it from piratebay, 60 days is pointless.
also why the hell dont you recieve a windows CD since uv purchased a copy of it with your laptop, hence your key. if anything go's wrong the cheeky ******* just want you to spend more money paying a shop to install it or buying it again even though you have a copy installed and payd for...not that this causes a major prob for me because theres plenty of plaes to find a copy online, it annoys me for the people who have no clue :)
Bloatware pre-installed on any computer is extremely frustrating for anyone trying to configure a machine for use. It's even more problematic if the person doing the setup is a computer novice or neophyte. If the computer manufacturers really wanted to service their customers they would forgo this crap and instead install worthwhile "free" programs such as OpenOffice, Avast/AVG, Picasa, etc.
I spend hours "de-crapifying" computers prior to assigning them to my company's staff. We are too small to have a dedicated IT staff and I am the "unofficial" IT guy. It is truly amazing how many computer users are ignorant regarding the basic "care and feeding" of their computer. I think the manufacturers are totally out of touch with this reality. I'd estimate that 75% to 80% of the people in our company don't even know basic Windows conventions and keystrokes like "Ctrl+C", etc. These are people who rely on their computers to perform their required work. So, why not make things easier by eliminating the crap entirely. Supply a CD with a selection of decent "free" programs that can be selectively installed. Include a "quickstart/dummies" guide to the software so users can understand what the various programs are designed to do. Finally, Asus does a decent job in minimizing the crap but could do even better. When in doubt, download PC Decrapifier and run it on a new machine before adding additional software.
To my mind, the most inportant thing is to let the the consumer decide what he needs and what he doesn't. I hate when the manufacturers sell their laptops preinstalled with windows & other loads of crap which makes the price higher. Why should I pay for a product which I do not need? THe best way is to let the cosumer choose if he/she needs an OS, and the other preinstalled sutff. If the consumer does not need this let him/her buy that laptop without that crap for a lesser price.
No bloatware. I hate those useless apps that come with most packages nowadays.
just put Firefox and nothing else
Nothing.
A laptop should ship with no added software preinstalled, other than drivers required to make everything work. If the manufacturer so wishes, they can provide a DVD or folder on the hard drive where the user can choose to install additional software.
I would say that the "must have" applications would be:
FreeOTFE - disk encryption system for security (www.FreeOTFE.org)
Firefox - WWW browser (www.mozilla.org)
WinAmp - mp3 player (www.winamp.com)
VLCPlayer - video player (www. VideoLAN.org)
OpenOffice - Office suite (www.OpenOffice.org)
7Zip - archiver
ClamWin - antivirus
GPG - Email security
I would prefer laptop companies to offer WinXP SP3 as an option and a user friendly Linux distribution as another option.
For Windows, the essential freeware programs that should be preloaded imo are:
1) 7zip
2) VLC player or KMPlayer (cos both can play most media formats by default, excluding real player videos)
3) OpenOffice
4) Acrobat Reader
5) Firefox
6) Thunderbird email client
7) Paint.Net
Browser plugins
1) JRE (Java)
2) Flash
For antivirus & firewall, I would rather install those of my own choice rather than having the manufacturer pre-load them for me.
Hello all,
According to my knowledge it is better to have both Win XP & win vista.Some user prefer to use win xp beacause they daily interact with the same OS.For advanced user they prefer both becuase they some times they need to work on high end softwares which only supports in vista.So it is better that both OS should be installed.Forgive if i am wrong.
Thanks,
I only want the OS installed. I will install the programs I want, that is one reason why I had my last computer custom built. It came with the OS installed and nothing else and that is exactly the way I want it.